john kerry, who is considered also in the running for secretary of state. the why i see it, susan rice had two auditions. the original audition, five sunday talk shows where the famous talking point controversy emerged. that didn't go well. now a second audition meeting with the important republican senators, including susan colins from maine who is not a tea party dye in the wool die-hard red meat conservative who said i have more concerns now after the meeting than before. i think her nomination has not begun. it's in trouble. >> so that point, she had rehearsal over the long career. it hasn't just been two months. she has had a long career in the foreign service. she worked in the clinton administration. she has done a good job in this administration. so i think to minimize her career down to two months is a mistake. >> shannon: but they are obviously -- she is under oath and there will be questions that haven't been asked before that some will be -- >> including for broad sweep of that career. we should remember not all the criticism of susan rice comes